//  ____            _                  _                       _       _
// |  _ \ _   _ ___| |_    ___ _ __   | |_ ___ _ __ ___  _ __ | | __ _| |_ ___
// | |_) | | | / __| __|  / __| '_ \  | __/ _ \ '_ ` _ \| '_ \| |/ _` | __/ _ \
// |  _ <| |_| \__ \ |_  | (__| |_) | | ||  __/ | | | | | |_) | | (_| | ||  __/
// |_| \_\\__,_|___/\__|  \___| .__/___\__\___|_| |_| |_| .__/|_|\__,_|\__\___|
//                            |_| |_____|               |_|

//https://github.com/manta1130/Competitive_Programming_Template_Rust

#[macro_use]
mod input {

    use std;
    use std::io;

    const SPLIT_DELIMITER: char = ' ';

    #[macro_export]
    #[allow(unused_macros)]
    macro_rules! input {
    ( $($x:expr ),*) => {
        {
            let temp_str = input_line_str();
            let mut split_result_iter = temp_str.split_whitespace();
                $(
                let buf_split_result = split_result_iter.next();
                let buf_split_result = buf_split_result.unwrap();
                    ($x) = buf_split_result.parse().unwrap();
                )*
        }
    };
}

    #[allow(dead_code)]
    pub fn input_line_str() -> String {
        let mut s = String::new();
        io::stdin().read_line(&mut s).unwrap();
        s.trim().to_string()
    }

    #[allow(dead_code)]
    pub fn p<T>(t: T)
    where
        T: std::fmt::Display,
    {
        println!("{}", t);
    }

    #[allow(dead_code)]
    pub fn input_vector2d<T>(line: usize) -> Vec<Vec<T>>
    where
        T: std::str::FromStr,
    {
        let mut v: Vec<Vec<T>> = Vec::new();

        for _ in 0..line {
            let vec_line = input_vector();
            v.push(vec_line);
        }
        v
    }

    #[allow(dead_code)]
    pub fn input_vector<T>() -> Vec<T>
    where
        T: std::str::FromStr,
    {
        let mut v: Vec<T> = Vec::new();

        let s = input_line_str();
        let split_result = s.split(SPLIT_DELIMITER);
        for z in split_result {
            let buf = match z.parse() {
                Ok(r) => r,
                Err(_) => panic!("Parse Error"),
            };
            v.push(buf);
        }
        v
    }

    #[allow(dead_code)]
    pub fn input_vector_row<T>(n: usize) -> Vec<T>
    where
        T: std::str::FromStr,
    {
        let mut v = Vec::with_capacity(n);
        for _ in 0..n {
            let buf = match input_line_str().parse() {
                Ok(r) => r,
                Err(_) => panic!("Parse Error"),
            };
            v.push(buf);
        }
        v
    }

    pub trait ToCharVec {
        fn to_charvec(&self) -> Vec<char>;
    }

    impl ToCharVec for String {
        fn to_charvec(&self) -> Vec<char> {
            self.to_string().chars().collect::<Vec<_>>()
        }
    }
}

use input::*;
use std::collections::VecDeque;

const INF: usize = 999999999;

fn main() {
    let (h, w): (usize, usize);
    input!(h, w);
    let mut table = vec![];
    for _ in 0..h {
        let buf = input_line_str().to_charvec();
        table.push(buf);
    }

    let mut q = VecDeque::new();
    let mut ans = vec![vec![INF; w]; h];
    q.push_front((0, 0, 0));

    while !q.is_empty() {
        let (cost, x, y) = q.pop_back().unwrap();
        if cost > ans[y][x] {
            continue;
        }

        ans[y][x]=cost;

        if x > 0 && table[y][x - 1] == '.' && cost + 1 < ans[y][x - 1] {
            ans[y][x - 1] = cost + 1;
            q.push_front((cost + 1, x - 1, y));
        }
        if y > 0 && table[y - 1][x] == '.' && cost + 1 < ans[y - 1][x] {
            ans[y - 1][x] = cost + 1;
            q.push_front((cost + 1, x, y - 1));
        }
        if y + 1 < h && table[y + 1][x] == '.' && cost + 1 < ans[y + 1][x] {
            ans[y + 1][x] = cost + 1;
            q.push_front((cost + 1, x, y + 1));
        }
        if x + 1 < w && table[y][x + 1] == '.' && cost + 1 < ans[y][x + 1] {
            ans[y][x + 1] = cost + 1;
            q.push_front((cost + 1, x + 1, y));
        }

        if x > 0 && table[y][x - 1] == 'k' && cost + 1 + y + x - 1 < ans[y][x - 1] {
            ans[y][x - 1] = cost + 1 + y + x - 1;
            q.push_front((cost + 1 + y + x - 1, x - 1, y));
        }
        if y > 0 && table[y - 1][x] == 'k' && cost + 1 + y + x - 1 < ans[y - 1][x] {
            ans[y - 1][x] = cost + 1 + y + x - 1;
            q.push_front((cost + 1 + y + x - 1, x, y - 1));
        }
        if y + 1 < h && table[y + 1][x] == 'k' && cost + 1 + y + x + 1 < ans[y + 1][x] {
            ans[y + 1][x] = cost + 1 + y + x + 1;
            q.push_front((cost + 1 + y + x + 1, x, y + 1));
        }
        if x + 1 < w && table[y][x + 1] == 'k' && cost + 1 + y + x + 1 < ans[y][x + 1] {
            ans[y][x + 1] = cost + 1 + y + x + 1;
            q.push_front((cost + 1 + y + x + 1, x + 1, y));
        }
    }
    println!("{}", ans[h - 1][w - 1]);
}